Galvan DownB puts you into freefall.. for no reason?#1110

Galvan’s “aerial downb” is restrictive and clunky compared to similar “air stall” moves like Orcanes, Rannos, and Clairens, most other characters get to stay actionable (AKA not go into freefall) after using their DownBs which allow them to have more recovery and followup options, and some also have little to no endlag, making them INCREDIBLY versatile for mixups/b-reversing/etc.)

Galvans is pretty unique and enters freefall immediately, for no reason?

It’s slow, punishable, rarely worth using, and NEVER SEEN IN COMPETITIVE MATCHES besides niche silly setups….. removing the forced freefall would make it more consistent and comparable to similar moves and give galvan an actual reason to risk using it, instead of the current situation of no one using it, EVER.

It feels like a relic from beta testing that never got removed, because having such a huge downside doesn’t match up with how clunky it already is.

(the grounded version is a whole other discussion of inconsistent/bad moves, not getting into that here.)

We don’t want Galvan’s edgeguard to be better.
Also all commang grabs put you into freefall

@weaselsnore #1MinaBeliever Not Ranno fspecial or Wrastor dspecial, for what it’s worth.

Oh, i didn’t know that about Ranno.
Wrastor’s DownB is a hitgrab tho, afaik none of them put you in freefall

Ranno FSpecial and kragg Nspecial (command grabs) do NOT put you into freefall.

Now to address the counter argument, what is the alternate solution? I’d be happy to hear some ideas, I’m down for whatever.

Because currently, we have a character that has a DownB with 2 versions (aerial and grounded) and NEITHER are used in any competitive match, basically ever. No one uses them seriously. They are inconsistent/clunky.

Command grabs that don’t put you into freefall are very laggy. When used onstage they incur hefty landing lag, and when used offstage, they guarantee you’re recovering low if they don’t connect with their intended target. Nobody is suggesting that Galvan’s aerial down special should be made better by allowing it to go into normal fall without adding the caveat that it’s just as laggy as the others.

I’m against this because Galvan is already annoying as shit to edgeguard though.